Hopefully someone can suggest an easy way to work this out! I just added a 5750wpl to my home network to activate the front house lights after they had timed out from a sunset "on" command if someone came to the house in the early hours. At least I thought I was going to do that! Previously, I had been using another multi sensor in the house to sense the light level and activate the "front lights" group, that was Ok, but no real security feature. I tried to use the 5750 to control the lighting group on at sunset with a 5 hour off timer using the SS tab, then also using Night Movement PIR with a 5 minute off timer. The idea is to have the lights turn off 5 hours after sunset, then have the PIR activate the same group for 5 minutes if someone approaches the front of house once they were off. I found that the unit only really has 1 timer? not individual timers like the multi sensors. So I can only have the lights on for 5 minutes after sunset or stay on for 5 hours after detecting movement! I figure i must be missing something? any help in the right direction would really be appreciated Thanks Sconn