C-Bus Thermostats Released for sale

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    Conformist

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    Hi All

    Today we finally released the C-Bus Thermostats for Sale. This has been a long haul, but with the complex nature of such a control device, the testing needed was exhaustive and we couldn't take any chances

    Please enjoy

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    All the different models ??
     
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    Yes, both versions, with and without relays in all of the finishes outlined in the Trade Pricing Guide.
     
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    thank god:p

    any info on testing? which systems were controlled successfuly, which not?
     
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    Yes please on this info. I hate being a position where I have to test something like this out on someone else's system just to prove to them it works because you don't know either.

    Mick
     
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    and the blind relay???????

    relese date for the blind relay would be also good
     
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    Because this product is controlling HVAC with 'RWG' type switching relays, it compatability should not be an issue with systems that use this type of control interface. Remember that quite a few systems don't allow for this method of control so it's wise to check. Regardless, I'll post some datasheets shortly(assuming they are not on the CIS site already).

    Cheers
     
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    "RWG control" in google gives mostly links on C-Bus thermostat announces:D
     
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    Its commonly used for furnaces.

    RWG is a 24v ac control system using relay contact closure.

    For example, a set of contacts will close for HEAT ON.
    another set for COOL ON.
    another set for FAN ON.
    And so on.

    If you have 2 heating stages you will have a set of contacts for HEAT STAGE 1 and another set for HEAT STAGE 2.

    And so on.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    RWG is the common name given to the convention for the names of the control signals. If you look through that example you will see signals called "R", or "R1", "R2", "W","W1", etc etc.
     
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    ashleigh do you agree, that exect brands which use RWG would be very helpful for integrators?

    as an example - at the moment i cannot get information if any Daikin system may be controlled by RWG
     
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    Data Sheets

    Product sales data sheets on the thermostats as promised

    cheers
     

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    Could someone help me with the following.

    When will the remote sensors be available for the unit.

    Can the 4 zone unit function with out them i presume it cannot as it wont know the temp in the other zones.

    Can each of the 4 zone be set back / and or switched off independently.

    What purpose does the HVAC application have in relation to this product do you need both or could you use the hvac app and temp sensors work without the thermostat.

    Can the unit without relays use an existing cbus relay to control the heating
     
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    If there are no temperature sensors assigned to a zone then you can assign a zone to use the local temperature sensor in the thermostat. Until the remote sensors are released the only way to monitor the temperature in the remote zones is to place a single zone thermostat (5070THB) in the remote zones.

    The C-Bus Thermostats communicate using the C-Bus HVAC Application. This application defines all the messages within that appication. Newer versions of firmware for devices such as touchscreens, PACs, etc, have (or soon wil have) support for this application also.

    The unit can use existing C-Bus Relay units to control the plant. You simply put the C-Bus Relay unit on the HVAC Application (instead of Lighting) and assign the desired groups to the channels.
     
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    Most of these I can reply to without checking spec (and my failing memory... it's Friday and it's been a busy week)

    Shortly.... a minor last minute adjustment. Should be within the next 7-10 days

    Yes it can, but as you pointed out, it will not know the temps of the other zones (that's if you want to know their temps... you may use this unit in the return air area and use the scheduling for the zones). It is deisigned to work with remote sensors which can also be the single zone thermostat too which gives you local control... lots of options.

    Switched off yes... setback... no, not per zone, only per collection of zones (system)

    The temp sensor will work on a number of applications (only one at a time though). It can work with or without the Thermostat. It will broadcast temperature which you can display on a touchscreen, use in logic (where you can do setpoints etc if you want) or use in the old stand-alone method...... the old analogue sensor worked.



    Yep. That's what they are designed to do. So if you are controling panel heating, in-floor heating or maybe in-ceiling heating, these are perfect.

    Hope this helps

    Cheers
     
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    Remote temperature sensors are coming out very soon.

    Yes it can. It uses the temperature at the 4 zone unit to regulate. If the new remote temperature sensors are used they can also form part of the measurement used to regulate.

    NOTE that the current cbus temperature sensor cannot be used. A new update to this product is coming soon which will do the same job as the current product AND ADD support for the thermostats as well.

    Setback applies to the system (ie the collection of zones) on a thermostat.

    BUT each zone can be switched on and off independently.

    The HVAC application is used by the thermostats to communicate with each other in big, complex installations. In the normal course of events you do not need to worry about or use the HVAC application, with 2 exceptions:

    1/ You can turn a system on and off by issuing normal ON or OFF comments from a standard key unit, to the Zone Group on the A/C system of interest.

    2/ If you are a developer and wish to make your own product that either provides low level control, or if you wish to make your own plant controller. In that case, when documentation is ready you can apply to the C-Bus Entente program for membership and access to documentation.

    YES.
     
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    This is sad... (or dedicated C-Bussers)... three of us responding to a post at the same time in a Friday night. We need to get lives :eek:

    Notice the similar responses?
     
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    Nothing on TV tonight :)
     
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