cbus calculator

does anyone know if there is some kind of cbus calculator for all the new cbus units? I have downloaded the cbus calculator from the cis website but it does not have most of the newer products in there.

I heard something a long time ago that the calculator will be incorporated into the toolkit software.

Please let me know.

Thanks

 

Correct.. calculator is now built into Toolkit.. if you create a project. add your units. then click on the Network node you get a basic calculator result.

 

Cbus Calculator handy

I usually use the old calculator just to get a rough idea of current consumption to see if a project needs to be split into 2.

I could not do this the other day because the project was using DLT switches

So I used toolkit. It took 10 times as long to put in the units and then I still got 9 units not calculated. ????? why are units not calculated and has anything be put in since version 1 to indicate which units are not in calculation. The old software was very handy and quick. Great for the shipping list as well. Would be handy to have the old software updated. Why does cbus cable have to have a unit address ?? it also does not warn you if you add 2000 meters of cable 5 Amps of power supplies or too may units. I tried this and got an impedance of 0ohms and a result of "Blank"

Charles

 

For the first time I would have to agree with Charlie Crackle, I prefer the Cbus calculator as a stand-alone product as well.

As Charlie indicated I'm sure that it is far quicker then using toolkit and it provides you instant feedback when adding new units regarding the power requirements.

For those who already have a large number of Toolkit projects imagine adding every quotation in there as well??? You would have hundreds of projects to scroll through, I do not beleive this is (as the Super Nanny would say) asseptable.

Come Duncan you man of leisure, put the J1 on hold for a day and update the CBus calculator

 

Hahaha

Anyhow.. your feedback has been heard and I can see your point.. will discuss internally and work out how we can either make the Toolkit one a little easier to use informally or whether we need a little stand-alone tool like the old one.. as much as I'd like to update the old one, its just not feasible at this point..

 

i have just tried to use the toolkit calculator and just like Charlie Crackle i had 10 units not calculated and since that this is a 32 unit network it is giving me an incorrect result.

Does anyone know a way to fix this?

Why are the units "Not calculated"?

Regards
George

 

All your units in your project must have the correct catelogue number allocated to be used in the calculation.

To allocate the catelogue number open the unit GUI and enter the catelogue number in the appropriate data field. If you have a barcode scanner you can scan the barcode of the box to enter the catelogue number (press F10 to open the scanning dialog)

 

i agree, it was much better as a stand alone calculator
it was good to sort out a job first,usually before i even buy the c-bus gear
we dont us the barcode at all,just program at workshop and make any changes on site
please bring back a current stand along calculator

 

This is currently being considered.

 

I think it needs to be considered a little harder...

 

I agree with PSC. If you need any help considering, why not post a poll regarding this matter. I use the stand alone calculator on all of my jobs. Surely it can't be too hard to include all of the new units available in an update of the stand alone calculator software.

 

In my case I added all units using the catalogue. I checked and all units have a catalogue number. There is no way to find out which units are not calculating (ie have a catalogue number the software can not look up) Still 9 units not calculating.

Maybe the catalogue had the incorrect catalogue numbers on some items !!!

Charles

 

Charlie can you send the project and explaination of the problem to tech support. Hopefully they can identify the issue and if necessary provide the information we need to resolve the problem.

 

We have identified a problem in C-gate that is causing some units to not be calculated. I can't say when the fix will be made available, but we know this is an important feature.

 

Hmmm, intersting thing that I've never really thought about much - I've always bypassed the whole thing and used M$ Excel... coz I could never make Calculator or Toolkit work properly for the preliminary planning work !

I've never needed the feature because neither Calculator or Toolkit have a "easy" way of creating Quotes, Bill Of Materials lists, Project Planning and all the other documentation required for handover to clients. No way I want to enter everything about a job, just to do a quote for one !

So, (like many others) I made up speadsheets that calculate everything, create my parts lists and quotes, and provide lists of what gets installed in what position (for providing the the installing electrician). At the same time, the spreadsheet calculates the network current, etc so I know how many power supplies are needed. Then I manually "fiddle" the Output Device quantities to make it all match.

However I've never used this method for big projects with multiple networks etc... so my method is NOT completely flawless, nor is it really good enough even to use as a "prototype" system either.

JC