Conflict

I have been a home user for a now, started out using teach mode and now have progressed to changing options on the PC.
I am able to scan the network and have all the devices come up, using partial display, but when displaying full details I get an error.
Now I am unable to scan a device/neo switch. These are the error messages
1/ an internal error has occured
2/ unit recall failure

 

Conflict Error

I get similar messages all the time. It usually goes away when I retry or if I click on the device slot. I have never worked out what causes it but it is definitely not a real conflict
Tony

 

Thanks Ashleigh & Tonyo,
I have selected option to automatically resolve unit conflicts, and the error has been with me for a couple of days now.
Could it have anything to do with the network burden? I have had problems in the past with it? I was sent a hardware network burden from the guys an Adelaide but have not needed it and at the moment would not know "where to put it"

 

turn off software enabled burdens in large jobs and use the physical ones...

 

Thanks guys, I will give it a go over the weekend.

 

I'm with you Michael, I like a Burden I can see, feel, touch, caress even fondle. You know where you are with a hardware Burden you can see that it's plugged in.

 

this leads me to ask, where do you put the butden if you have all your din unit in the middle of the network (so that all rj ports are used)?

Is there a 'hub' out there that can allow for a star config of the network, and hence the use of a physical burden?

Mick

 

I would have said any RJ45 network hub, wether 19U or smaller, can be used, as long as you use the correct pin configeration and label the unit as the c-bus network, and not to be used for anything other than that.
Pin config
1) Remote ON Green/White
2) Remote ON Green
3) C-Bus Neg Orange/White
4) C-Bus Pos Blue
5) C-Bus Neg Blue/White
6) C-Bus Pos Orange
7) Remote OFF Brown/White
8) Remote OFF Brown

 

I use and recommend...



Cheers

 

What is a burden

Excuse my ignorance but I am not hardware literate. What is a burden and what is its role in the network?

 

Foowup Question on burdens

Since I didn't install my c-bus system , how do I check if I have a burden (software or hardware)?

 

Ross

you gave me some info before re the unit you use, but I have not been able to find anything for it. Are you able to elaborate on part numbers and or suppliers any more

Clyde

Have you actually used a hub for the c-bus network and can confirm that it works

Mick

 

Yes Mick we have used a hub on the network and it does work, however if you are in the installation stage of your project, why goto the expense of installing a hub when moderate care in design means you end up with two cables back at your marshalling box, or origin. As much as possible we try to install daisey chain c-bus network cable around the project, with one end of the ring being terminated at a RJ45 Cat5e Outlet plate and the other end of the ring terminated into an RJ45 plug.

The RJ45 plug is installed into one RJ45 ports on our first din mounted output unit, the second port contains the network burden. We use the Cat5e Outlet plate for the connection to laptop. Care should be taken not to complete the ring of c-bus network cable. (Communication problems will be experienced if you do)

Why install a ring??

We have found that if the c-bus cable becomes damaged at some point you can remove the damaged portion of the cable, at adjacent input/output points
and then use the spare leg (cat5e outlet plate) to feed back to the units that would otherwise be lost.
You can still star wire units, but we only take them from a key input, as the termination of the cables can be carried out easily.

 

if you got nowhere to put the burden here is another way you can attach it, you'll need one of the Clipsal RJ-45 sockets (not the RJ-45 connector) and some Pink C-Bus cable,

ok, now strip back one end loop it together (by the cbus colour standards) to a Key-Input, and punch down the otherend to the RJ-45 Socket, then plug the burden in and you're set...

is this theory workable ?!

 

Workable yes , but if the burden is hidden behind a key input how do you know where it is, you might as well have used the software enabled burden, On a larger project, how many key inputs do you have to remove before it can be found.

 

Sorry Newgen i missunderstood your post yep that would work, i think you meant a cat5e wall plate (RJ45 socket)

 

well really, you should document everything you do for the job, that's how you (the installer) would and should know the job and the job back to front.