Hello, I have an installation with only Neo keys and 12ch Relays no TouchScreens or a PAC. What I want to do is to program a Neo key as a scene "All OFF" whitch will turn all the lights off and close all the Rollers down (2 Rollers) is there a way to do it? Now I control the rollers UP and Down with the help from [URL="http://Bullpit"]Bullpit[/URL] - [URL="http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1008&highlight=blinds"]here[/URL] The Rollers have auto limit stops for up and down. The problem is that if I make a scene with all lights off and activate the relay whitch control the Roller down, the relay will stay on and when she will come to the house and want to open the Roller it will not come up because it will have both the down ant up "Relay on" I hope I didn't confuse you all.