Creating an all off scene

I am trying to create and all of scene with over 150 groups. How do i include all of the groups so that i can have one button that will turn everything off in the whole house.

I believe that you can only have 100 groups on one scene, however can you create a scene within a scene, so that the customer can have one button that turns everything off.

I really need to know ASAP!!!

cheers

 

Create a trigger group that you include in your first scene at 100% then configure that to trigger the second scene that has the rest of your groups in it. Make sure you also add the trigger group at 0% at the end of the second scene so that it resets it.

J

 

C-Bus Area Programming instead of using Scenes.

Hi Troy,

You might consider using a single C-Bus Area instead of large C-Bus Scene(s) in your automated home.

If all of your loads that need to be turned off can be grouped in C-Bus units, without including any other loads or C-Bus Group Addresses that you do not want to turn off at the same time, then using a C-Bus Area can be a particularly fast and efficient way of turning a large number of C-Bus loads off (or on).

 

Sorry, I am new to all of Cbus. How do you actually create a scene/ trigger group. Every time i think that i have created a scene it doesnt work..

 

Area command

Hi Troy
AS Brendan said, an "area" command is the best way to do it. This is different to a "group" command but works the same way. If you want to turn absolutely everything off, that is everything on your network then this is the way to go.

On the relay or dimmer GUI, you will see a field "area" . On my part RELDN12, it is on the RHS, third from the bottom. Above "Tag name" and below "application".

Create a unique name such as "EntHouse" and add it to the list in you relay or dimmer. You want to create something unique as it ends up in the group address list. Do this in every relay or dimmer you want to be affected by the command.
Now go to your key input (or touch screen) and insert this "area" name where you would usually insert the group name. Looking up mine, I use a preset function that uses "recall 1" that fades them down (to 0%) over 10seconds. You could simply do an all off but that will instantly leave you in complete darkness.

It works excellent, the only time it dosent is when I'm leaving the house and the pool pump is on, (as it is controlled by C-Bus) so the pump goes off as well. If I changed or took the area command out of that relay then it would stay on.

Hope that helps

 

Yea that helped alot thanks matthew!!! Really appreciate it. Cheers

 

When using area addresses, include the same area address in all key units that control any outputs affected by the area address, that way, the status LEDs of the key units will immediately respond to the Area group. (otherwise you will see a lag of about 10 seconds before the button LEDs agree with the output status.

Another pointer - I'm sure it's been mentioned before, you can't assign a key to be an OFF key for area address. It will work once. then never work again (the area group stays OFF). You need to assign it as a recall level command as Matthew suggests and set the level recalled to zero, or use the rampoff command. This will work every time.

Area addressing is fine for this application, but as soon as you want some groups in a unit to be turned off and not others, then you need to either set one key to control multiple groups (you can in C-Bus key units by simply ticking more boxes), or use scenes. A scene can include an area address, so you have complete flexibility in this - some units can be entirely turned off, and others can have just some groups turned off all by a single key press.

 

Is there anyone out there who is very good at programing the cbus network. We need to get this working ASAP. The all off scene is half working as 15 groups or so, still stay on! All we need are the finishing touches. Cheers