Have a few things to report, if u save the touch file than make a change in the schedules ctouch does not know about the change and will not let u do a save - have to use the "save as" option. if u copy a button(s) from one project and paste into a second project and the page link numbers are not valid the old index out of range (error 19) comes up and u have to kill ctouch with task manager. If there are multiple error ctouch goes into crash mode and again has to be aborted. haw to u make the scene details window bigger so i can see the full setting and even most of the scene settings ?? dave