Hills S1245a HHH412 tv multiswitch help please

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    Jdebellis

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    Hi all. I have read many threads here which has helped me with my cbus so I thank everyone. But I need help with this which I can not find answers to

    I purchased a relatively new home with cbus, hills home home, data ect right throughout.

    In the hills home hub is a tv signal distribution box. Model code is S1245a HHH-412 multiswitch. 412 I gather stands for 4 inputs and 12 outputs - which is what it has.

    Along the top of the unit is 4 inputs labeled T, A, V, and H.

    The free to air antenna is plugged into T with f type connectors. Then 12 outputs are running to the living areas and all the bedrooms - it all works sweet. No issue.

    I wanted to know what else I can plug into A, V, and H.

    I was told - I don't if this is true, I can get foxtel to come and install their cable into one input, then if I get multiple foxtel boxes, at each wall outlet, I could put a box ( obviously have to pay for each point and box) at each outlet point round the house - not that i would - but in the two living areas would be great to have foxtel. this was done in advance so that if the previous home owner wanted foxtel, all the distribution cables round the house are already run.

    I also have security cameras in the house and the video out feed from the dvr runs to the Home hub and the wire just sits there doing nothing. Can I plug this video out into this box and will it pump the signal to wherever a tv outlet it.? I understand I need to get an rf modulator as the signal is a video signal, not rf. The video signal works. I took a small 19" tele in to the home hub and plugged it in and the cameras all show up perfectly on the screen.

    I really want some advice on how to use this s1245a hhh412.

    I tried ringing hills - they refused to help

    They told me call an installer. But I have nothing to install, until I can work out what this thing can do, what I can plug into it, and then maybe if I find some uses for it, then i can call an installer to to do whatever needs to be done. I tried a couple installers but no one wanted to come out cos there was nothing to do, except look at it and spend 5 minuted to tell me what it does

    I have tried goolging for a user manual or installation manual but nothing exists

    All 12 outputs are used. And 12 rooms in the house have an ftype wall plate ready to go. And they all work with free to air 100%

    Hoping some of the good folk on here can tell me what I can use this for and what else I can do with it.

    Thank you for adding my post and your replies.

    Here is a photo of what it looks like
     
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    Ok. Sorry. Couldnt get the photo to upload. Working from an iPad
     
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    Hills developed all of its technology from a loophole in the Channel Plus patent. For some reason Channel Plus never patented their IP in Australia.

    So to cut a long story short.

    The antenna distribution system is intended to take
    - Antenna inputs
    - CCTV feed
    - Analogue Modulator input called AUX

    Which it multiplexes into your MATV distribution system.

    If you want more specific advice, send your photo to a hosting page like Flickr or so on and send the link to the next post. There is an insert image button which needs a URL.

    I would be happy to come out and look at it for you if you are worried or troubled by it.

    You better be careful with using the system without attaching the prescribed voltage stop. The RG6 lines can be loaded with voltage to operate a return path IR sensor.


    UPDATE
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    The H and V are polarity injections from a satellite dish. So yes, this is basically a very expensive multi-switch which accepts satellite signals and MATV at the same time. This would in theory allow people to use multiple satellite boxes and free to air at the same time. In order to do so you would need a small metal box with filters the satellite from the TV antenna and creates two connections from the one port. Though, it may be pointless given that satellite has free-to-air content.

    T= Terrestrial
    V = Satellite vertical
    H = Satellite Horizontal
    A = AUX modulator
     
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    Thanks tobex.

    Here is the image - finally got on the laptop

    You can see on the image the four inputs along the top - the antenna ic urrently on the top left input which is slightly covered up by cables. Then the A input then the V and H.

    Then the 12 outputs - 6 down each side - all works and tv is distributed round the house perfectly.

    MY aim is to see what else i can do with it. The guy who biult the house put its lots of stuff. I have heaps of extra wires doing nothing in the home hub. I think he planned on putting more in, but never got round to it and sold the house. But all the main stuff, TV distribution, Phone distribution, Cat5/Data distribution all works. HE has so many cat 5 cables and points running around the joint, I have actually used some of the additional cat 5 to run HDMI (over cat5) round the house so that I have centralised AV system and I can watch stuff anywhere without haveing to have dvd players ect all over th house - keeps the place clean and neat.

    The idea is to work out what I can do with this MATV box. I am a bit of a technology junkie, and if I can do something, or make something work, then generally, I just do it cos I can.

    One thinkg would be pumping my CCTV security system over it, that would be cool. That way if the wife is upstairs in her room, or cooking whatever, she can watch the kids in the backyard, as we have a camera overlooking the yard - things like that would be good.

    anyway, thanks for your help, and look forward to your feedback.
     

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    Would you be kind and resize that image to something near 800 pixels wide.

    Well ... I think we need to look at a COFDM modulator. The days of analogue are numbered and if you intend to share anything then you must in all instances think about digital modulation.

    There is a different thread on that.
    http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6419&highlight=cofdm

    Once you have sufficient COFDM inputs then you can stream Foxtel, CCTV ... as you like into your digital channels of your TV. So you end up with Free-to-air digital plus your personal channels in-house. Works even better if you have Picture-in-picture on your TV.

    There is no real limit. Just comes down to budget. The more you install in 2012 the more it will cost. The prices will tumble after 2014.

    What you have right now is a rebranded Johannson multiswitch for the provisioning of Satellite or MATV down the same RG6 cable. Overkill by todays standards because of the COFDM modulators.

    You need a plan for what will be installed in the distribution side of the house. I would like to point out that File Servers are taking over from PayTV as sources for entertainment. In other words people load all their files on a central home server and watch it on a TV using DLNA streaming.

    Much of what we understand to be home entertainment has been replaced by computing power and not broadcasting. That is the basis of Smart-TV in a nutshell.

    If CCTV is your first undertaking then you need to decide how many channels you would like to broadcast into the home signal. How many views on how many channels. Each COFDM channel will cost you about $700 to $450 depending on what you select as your hardware.

    BTW .... those twist on F-connectors are really leaky and will give some issues.
     
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    Thanks tobex. I'll try resize that image when I get on a pc tomorrow

    Thanks for your advice. Makes sense.

    Do you know your way round cbus ect very well ?

    I need to get someone good out soon to do some programming and mabe look at some changes/additions to the overall system. It's hard to fund someone very good at cbus who isn't a glorified light fitting installer - or who actually returns a call when you ring to come have a look at the job.
     
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    I can probably help you get your system online via Ethernet so that you can load the system into a laptop and then walk around the house making changes and see them instantly. I have no idea what kind of interface you have at the moment but I can get you up to speed on that.

    There are people in Castle Hill area who are much better at programming than I am. Plus also Clipsal themselves carry a list.

    If you want all-round advice on LAN, CBUS, MATV, Audio, Integration, LED, Alarms, DLNA, servers, routers and retrofits I can help. If you want super-amazing programming then I dont have any existing library which I may download to your house. I do however have some DLT modules and some old style touchscreens in stock for a low price.
     
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