Home Gate intermittent connection

Discussion in 'C-Touch/HomeGate/SchedulePlus/PICED Software' started by dsamson, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. dsamson

    Phil.H

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    I tried to use a crow once, all it did was squark a lot, pooped on my tool box then flew away (Don't worry - next time I miss spell or miss type something in the forum I will be waiting for your to jump on it to pay me back) :D You can however use a Cathode Ray Osciliscope (CRO) to look at the waveform of the C-Bus clock pulse. This may or may not tell the whole story.
    When comms are screwy you can get lots of weird messages reported by C-Gate. The trick is to analyse what is going on just before a fault.

    Good to here you got it sorted - with that fire burning I think the F3 is still closed so it would have been difficult for me to get up there to see you ;)
     
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    Lease time

    I know its a little of the track... glad you got it sorted!:)

    But for those interested i have had a similar situation where the CNI drops out, turns out in some (most?) routers there is a maximum lease time on an IP address, which sometimes causes these types of problems to occur.

    One for the memory banks...

    Grant
     
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    You don't have a toolbox! :cool:
     
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    Phil.H

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    You're right I have four. I was on the tools before you had your "first". Did I ever tell you my theory on why the Cronulla riots started ??? :D
     
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    ICS-GS
    You are correct The Network interface was dropping out due to the lease time.
    Also this is why the remote desktop connection also dropped out after the lease time and I couldnt connect after the routers 180seconds.
    But I can confirm that iwas connected to the same network via a CNI and the network dropped out every hour or so.
    I hope this helps other young players with some network knowledge.
    Cheers
     
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    I can vouch for Phil's most excellent technical pedigree.. we have the same fundamental technical background in an organisation that, at that time, valued its Technical Elders and spent vast sums of money in transferring as much knowledge as it could to its up and coming recruits. He probably stole his toolbox from that company when he left.. just like me :) Along with my Ladder, Drill, and Butt.
     
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    Dunc is right on the money. I was going to mention that one of the toolboxes I own I acutually made in the early days of my training but I knew that would create confusion. Dunc, you forgot to mention the weller soldering iron with replaceable tips. Still the best soldering iron I have. I often worry where the skills shortage will end up as business can't / won't train people like they used to. We have not seen anything yet when it comes to the skills shortage. Those of you with the skills and experience will continue to be busy and make good coin ;)
     
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    Phil.H

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    Grant, can't you set a non routable IP address with a lease that does not expire ??? :)
     
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    Indeed.. large organisations are now driven by a desire to teach their recruits as LITTLE as possible in order to get the job done.. no technical philosophy, no "cross training", no complimentary skills, a two week induction delivered by some limp wristed trainer who recieved a "train the trainer" course a week before and drools over the concepts of pedagogically correct outcomes, core competencies and key deliverables.
     
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    Why is it that every ex telecom person I come accross has a shed full of orange tool boxes and the best tools that money can buy :confused:

    I think my phone line rental would be half what it is, if all you guys handed back your stuff when you left :)

    Cheers

    Rohan
     
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    Hey - most of the tools were classed as "consumable" and as such they did not want them back. That's my story and I am sticking to it :D

    Paid for four years to study and train. You could not imagine that by today's standards. That's why I can't win a chook raffle these days, I think I used up all my good luck getting that job all those years ago.

    Rohan, if you ever run out of cutters, pliers, screw drivers etc give me a call :p
     
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    Probably...but i have yet to see one. You can usually set them to an extrodinarily long time if you want.

    But they usually renew straight after dropping out, thus re-starting the lease, just depends on what you were doing when it dropped out.
     
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    Thanks Phil, but I have another ex Telecom mate that keeps me supplied :)

    I should also confess, that whilst I'm not ex Telecom, I do have a few items that I aquired over the years ;)

    Cheers

    Rohan
     
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    Well you're all dirty rats then....

    Perhaps I need to find a friend that used to work for the big T

    Is there a diredctory of ex-telecom guys with gear to give away?:cool:
     
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    I worked for a different govt organisation that used to train about 50 apprentices a year - electrical, "radio", refrigeration, carpentry. These days they do... NONE. All those tradeys have gone on to earn a few quid, but there is nothing to get the next generation going.

    And I didn't go through that route, but I did end up with one of their toolboxes. In a fit of honesty I gave it back when I left. Must have been the first one ever, I don't think they had a clue what to do with it. But everything was an accountable asset (they used to send somebody around now and again to check it was all still there) and I didn't want to get the bill for "losing" it all. Stupid mistake that was!
     
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    Nathan

    You probably want to see if you can change the router so that some of the IP addresses are fixed (normally just bump up the lowest numbers IP address it can allocate), then change your various machines and CNI so they all run with fixed (static) IP addresses.

    It's more of a pain to set up each device, but that way you can be sure that the address will stay the same for ever.

    For a CNI, it is certainly Clipsals preference that DHCP allocation of IP addresses be avoided. (Though I don't know that this appears in any document - don't flame me if you can't find it in writing.)
     
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    Thats a good story, better than the one I've been using, I think I'll use yours from now on.. thanks! :)
     
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    Hey, I just found a box of consumable Multi-room Audio gear under my desk :D
     
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    Richo - It must be your lucky day. Hope there are consumable speakers in there as well. Make sure you look after this stuff and treasure the good fortune for many years to come...;)
     
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    We ran a Homegate in a commercial application with a CNI connected to our normal LAN network and had NO problems after 3 or 4 years of operation (Homegate 1.3 was the latest and greatest when it was set up). That system used fixed IPs, which was also handy because we used to VNC into the box to do maintenance, rather than driving for an hour just to change an icon or whatever.
     
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