How to Flash lights when Alarm is triggered

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    A client requested that all external lights of his residence should Flash for 2 minutes when the Alarm Panel triggers Alarm.
    When I was on site I tried to find out a way to do it, however without success. With a little search at home I found something and since I am impatient to wait to test it on site I would like to hear you opinion.
    1. I created a scene called Alarm
    2. Setup a Trigger Control Group that is triggered via a bus coupler from the Alarm Panel
    3. I set Pulse to all groups for 2 minutes
    4. Finally, the tricky part, by right clicking in every group I selected the Flash option http://prntscr.com/btipu

    Will this work?
     
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    I've done something vaguely similar but I use my PAC to pulse a CbusLevel. If the PulseCbusLevel command can do the same with your Trigger then it will probably work.

    My 'Lived-In-Look' however is slightly different though, I have a Scene for the ON state and a Scene for the OFF state. When triggered I enable a Module and inside the Module I have the ON Scene, a Delay and then the OFF Scene. The only drawback I experience is when I 'interrupt' the execution of the module by arriving home then the lights go off all by themselves at some point - I haven't fixed that part up yet.

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    Thanks Ingo,
    However I do not have a logic module in this project.
    Flash option I described above can not be saved so I am lost again (I tested in wiser)
    Any help is much appreciated. I know it can be done without logic because I have seen it in a installation years ago
     
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    This is not the best solution but it's the only solution I found.

    I used a time schedule that is repeated every 10sec (the sooner configuration time) if the Alarm is turned ON. However the group is pulsed ON only for 5 sec.
    As a result, lights coming ON for 5 sec and OFF for the next 5 sec, and the sequence is repeated for as long as I like.

    The repetition every 5 seconds can not called "Flashing lights", so I am still waiting for your proposals...
     

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    This is not an "option" of the group as such. It is so that you can flash a group while you are creating the scene to physically see which group it is.
     
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    What are you wanting it to do? This sounds like "flashing" to me...
     
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    Hi Darren.
    If the intruder Alarm panel signals for alarm, the client wants all external lights to flash in order to be easier identified by the neighborhood which house is under attack.
     
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    The repeat schedule pulsing the group which you have set up should toggle the "LT LR 2" group every 5 seconds while the "enable alarm" group is on. It is not clear whether that is not working or is not an acceptable solution.
     
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    I am sorry for my bad English.
    I wanted to find a way to toggle lights in a quite fast rate. A solution I found out is the above described though a repeat schedule, however the 5 seconds repeat rate is not what I had in mind - it is too slow.
    I just wondering if there is a way to succeed a faster rate (like every 1 sec) without logic
     
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    There is probably other ways but I used this to get some flashing going.

    Code:
    {office lights to flash 3 times when camera motion is on}
    once (GetLightingState("Camera Motion") = ON) then   
    begin
     TimerStart(1);
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 0 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel("OFFICE LIGHTS" AND "OFFICE CENTRE", 100%, "0s"); {To test it I used my Office Lights group address}
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 1 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel("OFFICE LIGHTS", 0%, "0s");                       
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 2 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 100%, "0s");                                                                     
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 3 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 0%, "0s");
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 4 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 100%, "0s");
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 5 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 0%, "0s");
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 6 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 100%, "0s");
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 7 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 0%, "0s");
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 8 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 100%, "0s");
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 9 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 0%, "0s");
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 10 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 100%, "0s");
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 11 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel(FLASHADDRESS, 0%, "0s");
    end;
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 12 then
    begin
    SetLightingLevel("Camera Motion", 0%, "0s");   
    end;
    
    once
    TimerTime(1) = 12 then     {stops timer 1}
    begin
    TimerStop(1);
    end;
     
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    No problem. I wish I could communicate as well as you do in a second language!

    The limit of a 10 second repeat rate was put on schedules to stop people from flooding C-Bus with messages.

    You can have more than one repeat schedule with the 10 second repeat rate but with a different starting time to give a slight offset. Ideally you would have them like this:
    - Schedule 1 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:00
    - Schedule 2 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:02
    - Schedule 3 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:04
    - Schedule 4 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:06
    - Schedule 5 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:08

    Unfortunately, in Colour C-Touch there seems to be a problem where a 1 second pulse actually lasts for 2 seconds (issue 23848), so in this case, you would do it like this:

    - Schedule 1 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:00
    - Schedule 2 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:03
    - Schedule 3 pulses on for 1 second every 10 seconds, starting at 0:00:06

    This gives a sequence of off for 1 second, on for 2 seconds.

    If you are using a Colour C-Touch and really want the 1 second rate, you could do it with 10 schedules to switch it on and off, each offset by 1 second.
     
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    No logic....

    He has no logic module available....
     
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    There is a thread somewhere in here about light chasing nad how it can be done in C-bus without a PAC or other.

    I dont remember the details, but if you search for it you may find a clue in that thread.

    Mick
     
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