How to toggle Two Relay channels

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    allanf

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    Can someone explain how to toggle between two relay channels?

    When A is on or turned on B should be or turned off and reverse.
     
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    Ashley

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    Assuming you have a device that handles scenes (i.e. Neo/Saturn switch etc or a logic device), just create 2 scenes that set the relays to opposite actions then trigger the appropriate scene. You can do this via a single switch (search for scene toggle).

    Otherwise just buy a change over relay and control it by a single cbus relay.

    Note that if both relays being energised is a bad thing, software solutions are generally considered to be unreliable.
     
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    Or a C-Bus change over relay L5504RVFC
     
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    Or just get the existing C-bus relay to drive a separate simple change-over relay :)
     
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    Thanks guys, I was able to achieve the toggle by setting two scenes on my saturn switch.
    But ..... now one is always on ....
    I think did not correctly describe the scenario.

    A - Triple-LED lights
    B - Heat Lamp

    When A is on, B should be Off / If B is switched on, A should turn Off - Able to get this working.
    But either A or B is on, How to turn both off?
     
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    Create a third All Off scene. You can either trigger it from another switch or use a long press so set a preset value.
     
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    @Ashley Thanks, I used Scene capability and did the following on a 6-button Saturn Switch taking from your suggestion
    B1 : A On / B Off
    B2 : A Off / B On
    B3 : A Off / B Off

    So I have achieved the necessary requirement (This was for IXL Tactic). So good for now.



    Though, I would have liked to achieve this with just two buttons, Like
    B1 : First Press : A On / B Off
    B1 : Second Press : A Off / B Off

    B1 : First Press : A Off / B On
    B1 : Second Press : A Off / B Off


    Not sure if there is any way to achieve this?
     
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    Put in an eDLT and use the scene cycle :) eDLTs are great in bathrooms... even if just for the clock.

    Alternatively if you have a logic engine somewhere, you could make it turn off the LEDs if the heat lamp gets turned on.

    Nick
     
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    Unfortunately you can only toggle between off and on (i.e 0 and 255 (100%)) which only allows 2 action selectors for two scenes. If you were happy with a short press for On and a long press for OFF you could make the short press a preset and the long press an off and get what you wanted. Otherwise if you have a logic unit it's pretty simple to implement the toggle functions.

    Personally I find the eDLT's a bit brain dead for my liking. Of only they had kept all the micro functions in addition to the widgets.....
     
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    You could do this with two buttons. Just use two "both off" scenes.

    Sc1: A on, B off (Trigger group X=255)
    Sc2: A off, B off (Trigger group X=0)
    Sc3: A off, B on (Trigger group Y=255)
    Sc4: A off, B off (Trigger group Y=0)

    Just make sure your indicator kill situation is correct and this should work fine, I would have thought.


    Alternatively, since the both-on situation doesn't really matter if it only happens for a few fractions of a second, you could do it with only two scenes.

    Sc1: A off (Trigger group B=255)
    Sc2: B off (Trigger group A=255)

    Then just make Button 1 be On/Off group A and Button 2 = On/Off group B


    Both of these solutions require either a logic device with a proper scene engine, or multiple scene-capable input devices so you can have different trigger groups.
     
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