Input and OutPut Unit Question

I have two of the keys on a 8 gang neo changing the state of a virtual GA on/off. The GA does not control any output unit channel, but I am using the PAC to monitor the GA and run some other routines if the GA is on. This works fine, but if I leave the GA on for more than 5 seconds, I have to press the ON key again to be able to turn the GA off. I think this might be partly because the input unit thinks the GA is OFF, and it does not transmit the command to limit traffic on the network (I monitored this in the Toolkit log).

Does this mean that I cannot have a virtual GA? My understanding is that the output units store the state of the GA, and input units would be given state the GA when a status report is initiated. I wonder what happens in a case of a virtual GA?

I have however changed the logic in the PAC to turn the GA off every time and use a variable in the PAC to get the last state of the GA toggle the state every time the key is pressed.

 

When the STATUS Check is initiated, which unit will respond with the correct state?

Even if I remove the PAC from the network and just monitor the network, if an input unit turn the GA ON and I wait for about 5 seconds or more, pressing the input key to turn the GA OFF does not work.

But if I turn the GA on and Off within 5 seconds, the log shows both commands.

 

Hi Josh,

This sounds pretty odd. It works just fine for me...

Few things to try:
Assign an output channel so you can see what the group is really doing.
Try a different Group, preferably on a different lighting application.
Try using the Set Group On/Off buttons in Toolkit under Applications/Lighting/Groups to see if you can make it behave.

If you can narrow it down a little there's much more chance of someone being able to help...

Take luck!

Mark.

 

Knowing the key Microfunctions for that key might give a clue too.

 

Thanks guys for your responses. Will try your suggestions and see ....

 

I just noticed this (old) thread and was recently tricked by a similar thing.

Perhaps it's as simple as the Neo ignoring the first keypress ?

Open the unit in Toolkit... Indicators tab > Indicator Options > un-check "Ignore First Keypress"

If that item is in fact checked, you will indeed have to press the button "twice" to toggle the state of the GA

Cheers, John

 

Are you using an on/off (toggle command) on the lighting application? or a scene trigger or other type of command?