Min System Requirements for S+

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    We have S+ running on a dedicated IBM server that has Pentium 4 processor with 256 MB of SD Ram .It used to control a project that had 3 networks and it worked fine.
    Recently we divided the project into 7 networks for easier management and upgradation. Most of these networks have just 2 units and the maximum number of units on a network is 25.
    Now on running the modified S+ prog it takes a long time for the project to start up. Even things like entering the log-in password takes a really long time.
    I copied the project into my laptop which has 1.5 Ghz Centrino processor and 256MB DDR ram and it works fine.
    I have tried reinstalling and upgrading S+ and it still doesnt make a difference.
    The CPU usage on the server is nearly 80% when the project starts up but gets lower later on. On my laptop its nearly 30% at the maximum.
    What is the minimum specs required to run S+? According to the S+ FAQs its well within the min requirements?Do I have to upgrade it to include the increased number of networks?
    What else could be causing the problems?
    Does it make a difference if the networks are Daisy linked or Star?
    Is there any other way I can modify the project so that it uses less processing and/or RAM?
     
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    upgradation??? That's a new one.

    When you say S+ is running at 80% on start-up, is the project set to connect to C-Bus atuomatically? Therefore as it is polling the networks is it peaking at 80%?

    What version of S+ are you running?
    Are you using logic? If so how much?
    What operating system are you running?
    Do you have any other programs running in the backgroud?

    I would suggest (if you have XP) that you have a minimum of 512Mb of RAM, other than that if you have a clean install i.e. just OS and S+ it should (there's that magic word again - should) run OK.
     
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    S+ Version 3.4.1
    I am using logic but its not much. Do you want to know how much resources its using?
    Its running on XP professional.
    I already checked that and no there are no other programs running in the background. Like I said its a dedicated system for C-Bus.
    I havent given the option of the project automatically connecting to C-Bus, so the 80% peak is when S+ and C-Gate starts up.

    An interesting thing that happened was that I accidently ran another instance of the same project on the server today. This one ran normally.
    It got connected to C-Bus and gave an accurate status of all the networks and the units connected to it.
    The first instance of the project was still sluggish.
    Any insights on why this should happen??
    Is there any problems of running multiple instances of the same project on the same computer??
     
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    Just a general tip, coming from a major computer and IT background, quite often when things like that happen, and you have checked all the obvious things that you can think of, and you are still having the kinds of problems you are describing, I've found its best to just backup everything important, format the hard drive of the computer, and re-install everything.

    If you decide to do this, another tip would be to go into the control panel, then "Add/Remove programs", and then "add/remove windows components" and remove anything you dont need, as even though windows might not say it is running anything in the background, sometimes there will be programs running, its just that they are hidden, even from Task Manager.

    You can pretty much remove everything in the window I described above, without causing any problems.

    If wiping the computer and re-installing everything doesnt work, then you have a hardware problem, but from what you have described, it definately seems as if its a software problem.
     
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    I did notice that I had problems with only this project. So I rescanned the whole network , saved under a new project name and then modified the inital project ( that was running fine previously) to include the new networks.
    This time it ran properly.
    I had access to all the new networks and there wasnt any sluggishness whatsoever.
    I must add though that all the new modifications was done on the latest version of S+ and toolkit (Ver 3.6 and 1.6 respectively I think).
    Cant explain it but its working now and I guess thats all that matters
     
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    K maybe i spoke to soon when I said tat it didnt show any problems as a week later, the project slowed down again. It acts normally when I restart the project and runs fine for a couple of days and then it will get slow again .
    On closer inspection it seems that only the C-Gate part of it actually uses all the resources. Is it something to do with the updated JAVA??
    Has anybody ever encountered anything similar to this??
     
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    Hey Extrex
    I noticed in ur earlier post that you are running Schd+ 3.4 which means your running CGate2.3.
    The fist thing i would do is to upgrade Toolkit to the latest version 1.4 (which will give you the latest version of C-Gate) then also upgrade Schd+ to 3.6.
    If you have been upgrading the Java software uninstall it all the do the upgrade of the cbus software which will then install the correct version on JRT.
    I also adgree with PSC that you should have 512mb of ram (i know it says min256mb but that is very MIN....:rolleyes: )
    One other thing to look at is that you havn't got C-gate or Schd+ logging, if you do just check that the files aren't taking up all your hard disk space.
     
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    Based on some customer site defects seen recently, I'd STRONGLY suggest that computers running S+ should have ECC memory.

    Non-ECC RAM is quite the norm these days, it's cheap, and it's generally fairly good. However, if it fails for any reason, there is no way to easily diagnose it, and the symptoms of a failure can vary wildly. (Anything from Blue Screen of Death to programs crashing for strange and unknown reasons.)

    ECC RAM is generally more expensive and slower. However, it will detect memory failures automatically.

    Using ECC RAM might be a bit slower... but its better to be slow and right, then to be fast and broken.

    ** Warning ** you may need a specialised motherboard to make use of ECC RAM.
     
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