PAC, Wiser and or M1

I'm now at the next stage of automating my humble abode, and have been looking at the NESS M1 Gold for security and other switching, reticulation, garage door and door locks.

But for other C-Bus automation and scheduling would the PAC or the Wiser be a better option. Has the PAC been superseded by the Wiser or is the PAC and the Wiser two very different products ?

Steve

 

Hi steve,
Pac is a unit designed for doing difficult scenarios that need logic code and for communicating via RS232 with other subsystems like cameras, or home cinema controller etc.
The new touch screen with logic module is a value for money unit because with a small extra amount you are getting a smooth running and elegant touch screen also.

Wiser, on the other hand, is a unit that its main scope is to be a good looking gateway for C-Bus to the LAN and internet with nice presentation that eliminates the need of Homegate. Unfortunately, I did't have the chance to play with a wiser unit since in Europe we have to wait at east 6 months for new products...

 

It depends on what you want to do.

if you want lights to come on from doors opening, or other events that an alarm typically handles then the M1 is the way to go.

If you want to do more sophisticated logic within C-bus only, then the PAC is the answer.

I have lights (e.g. laundry) come on (timer for 10mins) when the laundry door is opened and it is dark outside and turn off when the door is closed or the timer expires.

The problem I am faced with now is that I have some logic in CQC and some in the M1. I am thinking of putting a PAC in to have all logic there and just have the M1 and CQC trigger scenes or groups to fire off the logic in the pac.

Mick

 

If you plan to regularly change/add logic, then Wiser would be the better option. It's a lot easier to reload given you can do it over your network and not have to connect with a USB connection each time. Also has a front-end GUI that you can bring up on a browser and soon, the Nokia mobile phones that have Symbian and Flashlite.

Cheers

 

There is a role for both the PAC and WISER

I agree with the conformist, and the others...

I have both a PAC and a WISER in my place. They are complementary.

I have left all the grunt logic (the stuff I don't want to change) on the PAC...

eg basic start up sequencing, interface with security, timers, basic entry/exit scenes etc...the stuff that stays and belongs to the house...

The other logic I want to play around with or do stuff on a more personal nature, I am going to do on the WISER because it is extremely easy to access via a network. It's also portable. You can take it with you to your next cbus house! It's also a great GUI. And one that a reasonably intelligent home owner (with the help of these wonderful forum members) can fiddle around by themselves without an installer ..eg re-label switches/add cameras/change logic etc....

Get both. As far as cbus gear goes...they are incredibly good value for money....