:eek: Hi, all been a while since I've posted. Ok, new toolkit v1.8.0 - v1.8.1 on a live network making changes to PIRs (any) Indicators to 'Always OFF' via the database to network, this resets in back to 'State/Time' after clicking 'OK' and te window has closed. The PIR indicator's final result is LED still active. Work around is to open and edit the unit via the Network window and Save to the unit. /glhf