Query on cgate messages

Discussion in 'C-Bus Toolkit and C-Gate Software' started by brj, Sep 8, 2007.

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    brj

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    Wondering if someone could advise me if the cgate messages below are pretty much normal or if they are indicative of something I need to chase down?

    If I ever bring a new device up and it conflicts toolkit just prompts to unravel and does its magic seemingly fine.

    Everything pretty much works as expected but the message that suggests a unit address conflict perplexes me - also the unit -f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 - seems to repeat over and over - is that a hex representation of a serial number or what exactly is that?

    Would appreciate any suggestions


    Many thanks


    I've just copied/pasted some of the cgate messages below. Running version 1.7.1 of Toolkit in case that is important.


    Cheers



    BRJ




    ommand reply for unit 102 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095727 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 103 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095727 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 104 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095727 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 105 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095727 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 106 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095727 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 107 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095728 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 112 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095729 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 118 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095730 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 120 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095730 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 123 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095731 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 125 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095731 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 126 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095731 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 127 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095732 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 130 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095732 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 131 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095732 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 133 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095732 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 134 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095733 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 139 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095733 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 140 (suggests unit address conflict)
    20070908-095735 840 //BENORA/254 f969fed0-f941-1028-8448-95d8da3e28a2 Orphaned c
    ommand reply for unit 146 (suggests unit address conflict)
     
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    These messages are normal.. a left over from a long ago abandoned attempted to make Duplicate Unit Detection faster and more reliable.. there's some messages in CGate that needs to be cleaned up now that that method is no longer used..
     
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    brj

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    Thanks

    Thanks Duncan....



    Cheers
     
    brj, Sep 8, 2007
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    HOWEVER...

    The message is a warning that there are unexpected bus messages when interacting with some of your units.

    I'd suggest you get the diagnostic software and play with that a bit, see what it shows you.

    Seeing one or two of those orphan command reply messages is Ok. Seeing a big burst of them, or seeing them over and over, is indicative of something not quite right.
     
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    Seeing a big bunch of orphaned command replies is normal when scanning the network if there are "newish" units present. By "newish" I mean output units with firmware > 1.3.0 and input units > about 1.5.00.

    These firmware versions introduced a reply to the CAL reset command which C-Gate sends to every unit when it scans the network. C-Gate hasn't caught up with the firmware though and doesn't expect the reply, hence the messages.

    As Dunc said, in this case they're pretty harmless, but as Asleigh says... if you see them over and over or at other times it's probably a sign something is amiss with your network.

    Nick
     
    NickD, Sep 10, 2007
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    Sounds like you guys might be a bit hesitant to dig around in the bowels of C-Gate, to clean things up. Is C-Gate that scary a beast ??? ;)
     
    Lucky555, Sep 15, 2007
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    ashleigh Moderator

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    Errrr..... no :)

    Sometimes it takes a while to catch up :(
     
    ashleigh, Sep 16, 2007
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