Recalling Scenes

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    filpee

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    Is there a way I can recall 2 scenes in a Saturn using the one button?

    I tried to setup 2 scenes in the Saturn with triggers then using a button as on/off I tried to trigger both scenes. But that didnt work?

    Im trying to get 1 button to act as a master on/off using scenes rather then using the area address or having it operate as an override.
     
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    The thing about scenes in Saturn and Neo wired C-Bus units is that they are mutually exclusive; only one can be active at a time.

    Having said that, there is a way you should be able to get what you want to work:

    Setting up two scenes in a NEO or SATURN with action selectors of say, 0 and 50%. would allow you to trigger from another unit with a Rampoff and a recall 50% whan the unit key is set to operate in the Control trigger application and the same trigger group as used in the NEO or SATURN unit. Now, it is possible for the triggering unit (presumably another NEO or SATURN, but could be any unit really) to issue both triggers with one keystroke by setting one of the triggers (Recall 50%) to occur when the key is just pressed (short press), and set the other trigger (rampoff) to short release as well as to long release, with long press set to idle.

    This should get you off and running, and by ending with Rampoff, all the LEDs, including the indicators in your initiating unit will end up OFF
     
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    If you don't assign any key to the scene in a switch, you can't trigger it even if they have all the trigger address and action selectors. So, as suggested, you must have another NEO switch to store the scene and have keys assigned to them. Sometimes (maybe always) it means you need a dummy switch in the panel at extra cost. Of course if you have a C-Touch or PAC controller in the system, you can use them to store the scenes. (but I don't remember if we need to draw a scene key in order to use the scene or not.)
     
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    I thought that would be the case so I had setup the 6 Gang saturn with button 1 as my on/off trigger and buttons 4 & 5 as my on and off scenes.

    I can see in the log the trigger changes value but the scene doesnt trigger.
    I also tried using button 1 and button 2 as trigger recalls to split the on/off between the 2 buttons but that didnt operate the scene either.
     
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    A scene that is stored in a unit ( a NEO, SATURN, etc.) can only be initiated in that unit by pressing the associated scene button on that unit. What you are attempting will not work.

    A scene stored in one unit (unit A) can be initiated by a scene trigger command from another unit (unit B) if that other unit (unit B) is set up with scene keys (with or without scene group+levels stored, but with trigger group and action selectors assigned).

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    A scene stored in one unit (unit A) can also be initiated by another unit (unit B) by setting the other unit (unit B) to issue commands in the Control Trigger application (secondary application if available) which define the levels of the 'trigger group' to match the 'action selectors' for each scene. This is the only way in which you can achieve the 'two scenes with one button' configuration that you are after.
     
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