The Minder Void

I'm no C-bus professional but there seems to be a large hole on the security side of things now Minder has been swept under the carpet. Anybody care to comment here???? I know there is the Comfort System but why is Clipsal not matching up some of the Home safe equipment more closely with C-Bus??

 

The ELK M1 security panel seems to be the likely successor to M!nder when Clipsal approve the Cbus interface.

 

Hmmm I hear you but would love a comment from the boys at Clipsal...What do we have that matches up the way minder used too. At least with a Clipsal based solution it all meshes a security/C-bus solution together very nicely. It's a given that if you're going to have C-Bus house it's going to be worth protecting and the customer will want the security and control tied in together....I mean whats the Deal with reselling an Alarm system that does not even talk to the C-Bus network??? Anything like this can become a money for jam option if it at least presents itself as an option to the Alarm System.

 

New Product - Homesafe 16 Zone C-bus Enabled

Something like this?

More info on this product coming to the forums later this week!

 

Newman,

I think you will find that the "THIRD OCTAVE" was asking about a M!nder replacement.

The Ness / Clipsal Homesafe product will not meet those needs. Yes it has a CBus interface, but it has no logic. The Ness ELK M1 does have logic, maybe not as advanced as the M!nder, but probably enough to get by.

The Third Octave,

Clipsal did not recommended using the M!nder as a security panel. However, the Elk M1 is approaching the situation from the other side of the fence - a security system with logic. Not logic system that can do security.

It seems to stack up when it comes to bang for bucks - I give it 4/5

 

Thanks Guys,

Peter, that at least gives me some confidence that you are prepared to rate the Elk M1 so highly.....I will look into it some more but it will be better when the c-bus Interface is approved. Any idea where I can find the supporting documentation ( I'm sure it is already on the site)

Newman, great, that is at least the money for jam option......I am indeed happier that Clipsal will sell a Alarm Panel that finally is C-bus enabled...

 

Try - http://www.ness.com.au/index.htm

 

your options are ( in no particular order ):

Concept panel ( Inner Range )
ELK M1 panel ( Ness Security )
Comfort Panel
Homesafe 16 zone panel 5400CB/16
http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7991#post7991

most of these are dedicated security systems...

minder required the programmer to devise the security component and could
have varying results depending on the programmer.

If you are specifically fixed on using the minder, variants of it might still
be sourced from dealers in one form or another....for further info on it, i
recommend you post your inquiry to
http://www.integrate-oz.net/forum/



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