[QUOTE=thelauman]heya again fellows, on a seperate topic, duncan, another feature that would be really cool would be for an 'identification mode' for input units. one scenario that i have dealt with several times involves an installation with everything fitted off and programmed in learn mode OR where the input unit's part name was not set and say 100 4 key gangs ALL have a name as NEWUNIT. As you can guess the problem is identifying which unit is where... (a frustrating task to say the least). An idea might be to have an "identification mode or button" in the toolkit (input unit GUI) where when enabled a distinct pattern of lights flash on the unit so you can id it. A job i did i had about 25 PIRs on seperate floors of a multi floor building and had to have a person standing next to each PIR one at a time on a 2 way radio telling me when the indicator light turned on as i was setting each and every one until the applicable PIR lit up. if id mode was on (for eg. a 4 key gang) the indicator lights might flash one at a time or all flash on off so you could at least walk around and see it and labell it properly. i am aware that if the job was properly planned and conducted then everything would be labelled properly to begin with if not with some documentation... however in the real world i am finding this scare if at all!!!! apart from that might there be any other ideas as to ID unlabelled units on a job that have already been fitted off. (one laborious one is to take all units off and add one at a time and program it accordingly but this is too time consuming.. any ideas chaps...?) what do u think....[/QUOTE] Hi Lauman.. I copied your message out of this [URL=http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650]thread[/URL] and started a new one so we dont lose track of things :-) OK, this is actually mostly done already, it was going to be part of the first release but it was a little buggy and I canned it until we could make it more reliable. Interestingly, Wireless Units and DLT switches have firmware capability that supports this concept.. you can request one of these switches flash its indicators based on a serial number or unit address. This will be easy for the 1.2 release of Toolkit.. Older units that dont have the "Identify Yourself" functionality are a little harder, we have to put them into a special application (The "Identification Application") after first ensuring no other units are already in this application... we then ensure that the keys have a group address assigned, then toggle that group address, the indicators then flash on and off... it works, just needs a little tweaking. Output units are a little different as well.. we can't toggle the loads for safety reasons so we have a methodology working whereby the Unit is again put into the Identification Application and we then invoke the Learn mode on that Application which results in the CBus and Unit LED's flashing on the output unit. Neat! :) So its coming, it already basically works, just needs a little polishing. Sorry it didnt make it into 1.1 :)