V2.7.7 with a Stallion Serial Port Server

Minder comms setting

What settings have to be modified to get minder working through a serial to ethernet server?

 

None. It is just converting Serial to ethernet to serial.

 

Just to revisit this topic, as it seems there is a lot of interest in serial to ethernet. Another device I have used with great success is a Lantronix UDS-10
Can be found for around the $250 mark and works great.
I believe even the Clipsal Network interface is based on the embedded version of the UDS-10

Now have my stallion server working a treat (now talking to alarm panel, minder,cbus and various console ports of networking equipment)
Next step is to connect my infra red and touch screen serial port so i dont have to move a muscle to work on anything serial.

Jason..

 

Lantronix and C-Touch Caution

The Lantronix device is very good with a PCI or Minder. It unfortunately will not work with C-Touch. In order to connect to C-Touch it the C-touch software first communicates at 9600 baud then changes to 3400. The Lantronix redirector does not not have the facility to change baud rates on the fly.

 

Damm how much does that suck. Why do something silly like that?
would love to connect to ctouch and even IR if it was available.

Have tried before with ctouch and never has any success. Maybe this is why.

Why does clipsal do such stupid things??
Future is Ethernet.
Please CIS make future devices at least compatiable with serial to ethernet devices.

What is the point of connecting at 1 speed then changing to another speed???

Jason..

 

The Digi Serial to ethernet Converter works OK on the Ctouch serial.

I use one to program these.

DIGI1SP


Charles

 

The default speed in 9600 so the C-Touch can act as a PCI. The speed increased when downloading firmware or projects so that it doesn't take all day. This is the same approach taken with the CBTI.

I haven't tested using a ethernet<->RS232 adapter with the C-Touch so can't comment on whether or not there are issues.

Ummm... since the only way to program the NEW C-Touch Colour is Ethernet, and taking into account the B&W C-Touch is many years old, perhaps we aren't as thick as you suggest.

 

Excellent news.

 

From my experience I would strongly disagree. The problems with making the Black and White C-Touch programmable via Ethernet would be :
1. Increased cost
2. Ethernet configuration hassles - this is a huge problem as Ashleigh describes above
3. Extra wiring for Ethernet
4. Ethernet devices tend to be power hungry, so you would probably need to have a plug pack. One of the great things about C-Touch is that it runs from just C-Bus power.
5. Extra heat dissipation too
6. Security issues (people hacking into your C-Touch would not be seen as a positive move)

I believe that most people would not want the extra cost and work for something which is usually only ever done once. In fact I would suggest that if CIS did make the change, there would be an even bigger outcry

If programmability via Ethernet is important to you, you can always use a Colour C-Touch.

 

Just to clarify my previous post.
I never asked for Ethernet to be built into these products. I understand the cost issues etc etc. I know for probably 90% of the installed product, it is programmed once and then put in a wall never to be touched for a long time.

All I suggested was the designers give due thought to the possibility of devices being programmed/used with serial to ethernet convertors, which with new products they seem to be.
As Richo pointed out the new cbus colour screen is ethernet, which is great news. i Personally like the idea of all my smart devices being on my internal LAN.
If i want to do make changes etc I would rather just do it across my already connected LAN than swap/change serial connectors etc.

Was a bit Tongue in cheek my post but all I was trying to point out is more and more homes are becoming wired for ethernet. eg Cat 5/5e/6 cabling used throughout most houses.

Many new pcs are coming with an ethernet port and sometimes no serial connection.
Serial to Ethernet devices are getting cheaper all the time.
It makes sense to design devices that can be used with these devices.
I personally have at present 6 serial dvices all working across serial to ethernet devices.

PVR
Minder
C-Bus Interface
ADSL Console
Router Console
Alarm System

I have My main Media/Home server PC which is where I want to control/program these devices from. Makes sense to use Serial-Ethernet.

Has gotten completely off topic now (probably thanks to me)

But lets get back on track.

Lantronix UDS-10 has been used for

: Minder
: CBUS PCI Interface
: Alarm Control
: PVR

Digi Serial has been used for

: Minder
: C-bus
: C-touch

Stallion Server Has been used for

: Minder
: C-bus
: Alarm Control
: PVR
: Various console ports of Networking equipment.

Cheers
Jason..