Wireless to Wired

Is it possible to control groups on a wired network using a wireless gateway and a wireless remote, or will the remote only talk to wireless input units. Reason being is my customers have reflection key inputs and do not want to hang an IR receiver of their wall to gain remote functions. If it cant be done could the boys at CIS consider it for the future.

Thanks in advance,


Peter Brown.

 

You need a wireless input unit. Perhaps you could discreetly place a wireless Plug Pack rather than a wall-mounted key input unit?

 

The desire to make the wireless remote work with a Gateway style product (without a Plug Adaptor or Wall unit) is something we are aware of. Unfortunately it is not trivial.

Have you considered using a Multisensor in the Ceiling for IR? Much cheaper solution than the Wireless Remote + Wireless Gateway?

 

Newman,
I want to do this too.

What is the problem? Could you give more details, please.

Unfortunately it is not trivial....and impossible, because ........
Or
Unfortunately it is not trivial....and possible whith that conditions ......... .

In some case it's a problem to use IR at all. A big hall, or hall with powerful IR transmitters of Simultaneous Translation System, for example.

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Valery.

 

You need a receiver.

A wireless gateway is just like a wired bridge. It can be set up to copy commands from the ether to a C-Bus network. This is useful. A C-Bus gateway is not a "normal" unit, it is a specialized data converter.

C-Bus wireless units, for reasons of compatibility, and to benefit from the features of the protocol on which C-Bus wired is based, send messages which include both Application and Group addressing to identify communication partners.

A C-Bus wireless remote, in order to conserve battery power and present a simple programming model, does not know about Application and Group addressing, and consequently can not send commands in the same form as is used between normal units. The different wireless remote protocol allows it to be set up to effectively press keys on a large variety of wireless C-Bus units without the contraints of complex programming.

Normal C-Bus wireless units can understand both the normal C-Bus wireless protocol, and the protocol used by the Wireless remote. Units which have been associated with a remote can map a command from a remote to an internal Application and Group address, and generate an appropriate command to be transmitted to other units. This can only work if the receiving "normal" unit has control over the state of the Goups within each Application affected, so that error correction mechanisms can work properly.

Wireless gateways do not maintain control of Groups, and consequently can not do anything intelligent with commands from the wireless remote control.

This is why you need a wireless gateway and a wireless unit to translate wireless remote control commands to wiireless commands to wired C-Bus commands.


Here's a link to a related thread:
http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=793&page=3&pp=10&highlight=wireless

Don

 

Thanks Don, very thorough.

 

Oh bugger - just bought a wireless gateway and 2 remotes to do exactly that. So I now need to go and buy a wireless plug or something (even though I will not use it) and it will all work ?

Chris

 

Yep, will work fine.

 

This is the info I was looking for. Saved me a lot of time trying to figure it out. Thanks

 

Look further

If you look on the main forum page you will find a section titled "Technical Support Application Notes." This gives a great more detail on how to acheive your aim.

Peter Brown.